Some background, from one source,

http://triblive.com/state/marcellusshale/2956890-74/range-county-gas-drilling-political-state-washington-vitteck-became-bill#axzz2CZRJlojg

http://triblive.com/news/allegheny/2956692-74/range-latino-company-county-drilling-comments-latinos-making-marcellus-pitzarella#axzz2CrCspVhs

http://triblive.com/news/allegheny/2972987-74/emails-saylor-email-range-attorney-campaign-general-leader-rep-county#axzz2CrCspVhs

After Rep White posted a recent Patch story blasting Range Resources, the comments were fast and furious. Most were unfavorable to Mr. White. Rather than respond against the comments, he chose to write a response on his campaign web site,

http://www.supportjesse.com/2012/11/he-has-a-right-to-criticize-who-has-a-heart-to-help-or-why-i-choose-not-to-retaliate-against-range-resources-character-attacks/ [big irony in the title]

The site shows many replies, but they have been made non-accessible. Only favorable comments via a FaceBook site are shown. Shortly after Rep White posted the link to his campaign web site on the Patch story, the article was closed down by the editor. He chose to post on his campaign web site, not against the Patch article, something not done in the past.

Rep White's FB page was also was immediately modified. Recent posts were all removed from view, and only posts from 2008 remain visible.

Apparently, he chose to run from the matter, and has been silent every since.

I feel it necessary to make a couple of small notes for the record.

My response (which can be found at http://tinyurl.com/c5fzhbv) clearly states that I have emails from Range which show the Super Bowl reference to be a response to a direct request from Range to come to an event they were holding, and that no plane actually existed. It was taken totally out of context for the sole purpose of making me look bad. I also have emails from Range executives giving me unsolicited praise and others which would severely embarrass other elected officials in regards to Range.

I have chosen the high road and will not be releasing them at this time because I want to keep the focus on the current issues with real-world consequences right now, mainly the staggering problems with the DEP and their handling of air and water quality testing in relation to drilling. If we want the Marcellus Shale industry to be a long-term success, we need a DEP the public can trust. That's where my focus is right now.

Finally, this nonsense about my Facebook page is simply untrue. Because of the non-stop spamming, I changed my personal profile from 'public' to 'friends only'. I have a network of over 5,000 friends and subscribers, plus another 4,200 subscribers to my Facebook Fan Page (http://www.facebook.com/repjessewhite/). Nothing has been deleted. If anyone has specific questions, please contact me directly and I would be happy to address them.

Your 'high road' seems to be going downhill.

You are attempting to create distrust of the DEP with no knowledge or factual basis.
http://triblive.com/news/2965350-74/dep-krancer-agency-smith-critics-butz-state-gas-range-results#axzz2CftUdAJE

The Facebook 'nonsense' is true. I have posted comments that have been deleted, along with any other comments that were in opposition to your opinion. It is just a venue for your hand-selected group and does not seem to reflect the opinions of the constituents that you are supposed to be representing.

Your behavior has been unethical and unprofessional.

I don't understand why I can't comment on today's posting about Rep. White. All other postings are available to comment on, but that one. Why?

Anyway, I agree with Cecil Resident above that says Rep. White's behavior is unprofessional (at best).

The so called shameful conduct started a long time ago and went unanswered except for people making comments on the Patch. Range had not responed until recently and they produced facts. Before the last comment section was closed ,not just edited but closed , Rep. White was just asked to provide to all the people he represents proof . He has stated he has letters, email, etc. all he produces is more words . Another site was posted with the same written words with no comments being taken, your postion will always get people for and against you and as an elected officals that is to be expected and you shouldn't run from them. do you feel that is fair to the people you represent who don't always agree with you.. After the last election we are no longer just believing words prove what you are saying help the people who doubt you , that you also represent , and give us some proof. Politics is a rough game if you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen. You say you have taken the high road and will be working on the DEP issue but what you fail to see is the the drilling issue is very important to the residents of Cecil Township and sometimes we need to muti task a state repesentative position requires a lot of issues to be handled and you chose to run for this position.

If you where just getting rid of spam in your facebook site why are people who don't always see things your way blocked. Once again post the proof you can block spam without blocking people.

High road? Maybe you can define that, Mr. White. Is the high road accusing a company in yoru own district of various crimes without offering proof? Or is the high road asking for a ride to the Super Bowl, getting caught and then acting like a child by coming up with a pathetic excuse? Maybe the high road is somehow convincing the other Patch to close down comments because you know it will be unfavorable? Gee, maybe the high road is you taking down your sites last week and removing posts? Could the high road be you demanding money from Range and when they didn't give it to you, you turning this into a personal issue?

It's amazing to me you're still in office. I would think by now the leadership in your party would have rid themselves of someone like you. Of course, based on the Trib stories, apparently nobody outside your district knows who you are. Way to make an impression, Mr. White.

For the good of the county and the state, please resign. It's my understanding there will be an investigation into your activities. How will you be an effective anything with that cloud hanging over you? Nobody from either side of the aisle will want to be near you. You're radioactive, just like Bill DeWeese was and look where he is. And he didn't even ask for a ride to the Super Bowl.

When do you plan to offer any proof at all of your accusations against the DEP? Or against Range? Or against the Governor? Where is the proof, Mr. White? At least in the case of Range V. White, the company produced some emails. What do you have? Let's see if you're man enough to provide proof and answers instead of spin.

Just a few more observations:

Rep White did post the same response article on Canon-Mac Patch as he did on his campaign web site. It was posted six days later, on the eve of a four day holiday weekend. Of course, this is the same strategy that any government agency uses to release any news that would be considered alarming or inflammatory. Why the six days in a later release, if not to minimize the readership? The Representative can officially say he made a public response, albeit in a form that minimized impact.

Also, what other Opinion piece does Patch post in which comments are forbidden? Apparently, Rep White worked a deal with the editor to eliminate the possibility for responses. This is consistent with the darkening of posts on the FB page as well. Even the campaign web site had comments disabled.

For a politician who speaks long and often about the need for public discourse, the strategy of eliminating discourse seems to be the one being implemented. Rep White is certainly entitled to use these forms of communication where he remains in control of the dialogue. But, it does fly in the face of his demand of public discourse in other forums. This is also true of the request made to anybody with a negative response, "Call to my office and we can sit down ...." This is another way for him to control the dialogue, eliminating a public exchange. Nobody would be so foolish as to allow such a meeting to degenerate to a "he said/she said" scenario.

I believe I answered many of the criticisms being sent my way, but these commenters apparently have little interest in listening. I renew my offer to discuss any of these issues face-to-face with anyone wishing to discuss them- all you have to do is call my office at 724-746-3677. Amazingly, no one has chosen to take me up on this offer.

Rep. White I can't speak for everyone but one on one is not an option for me I have personally seen how you have acted in public when someone disagrees with you and that conversation would go no where. If someone was printing lies and even threatening you like you say all of the people you represent would be glad to see it if what you say exist. If the things printed by Range are untrue why is Majority Stan Saylor asking for an investigation of you saying it is a stain on the General Assembly and the House, as stated in the Trib Live Friday Nov. 16, 2012. On August 6, 2008 when Rep. DeWeese was being investigated you issued in a statement that you promised your constituents to truly reform the culture of Harrisburg and urged DeWeese to step aside. Proof would stop all the negative comments and help you to keep the promise you made to truly reform the culture in Harrisburg.

Rep. White - As far as I'm concerned, your initial relationship with Range is indicative of your responsibilities as an advocate for your constituents.

As such, you found over time that as many of your constituency may be benefiting from the Marcellus Shale "boom" in your district, just as many have been affected by affronts to municipal autonomy, or the quality of life that is so important to many rural communities. The case of the mysterious odor at the clinic in Burgettstown (a case worthy of Perry Mason, perhaps?), and the battle over Act 13 are but two examples.

As someone who has experience with the behavior of drilling companies after seeing them in action for many years out west, I sympathize with your efforts, as well as what seems to me to have been an honest attempt to welcome drilling to your district while insisting it be conducted responsibly.

Funny how White made such a stink over Range not going to a meeting and accusing them of not wanting to discuss things publicly but when challenged, white tells people to call him or stop by his office to discuss personally. Isn't that hypocritical? Or just dishonest? So you can post whatever you want and not have to answer for it or produce any proof of your crazy accusations, right? Must be nice to have a whole website dedicated to your loonie rants..

"The company has released email from Mr. White which makes clear the unholy alliance between the two in happier times, times which no longer exist, as White has switched alliance away from the company."

Switched alliance to who? To his constituents? That would be a good thing. This blog is an outlet for your outrage towards this persistent relationship between gas companies and politicians right? How the needs of the company are advocated over the constituents?

Now he is going after the DEP (which is huge).

This claim seems pretty petty in comparison to the serious allegations White makes against the DEP in his Nov 7th (blog?) article on the Patch which nobody really seems to be concerned with, but I absolutely am as people in my area (not White's district but near) are losing their property values, clean water, and health since drilling began but when the DEP shows up they claim that this visibly brown/black water has not changed since prior to the drilling.

All I am pointing out is that your claim is that White once had this unholy alliance with Range Resources, but now he does not. So by your own claim, something has changed for the better. Now, it seems as if White is challenging the DEP, Range, and Marcellus Shale.

Is this not something that we should be applauding? After seeing people in my county lose everything bc local drilling reduced their property value to nothing (health and water claims aside)...I certainly am.

White had an alliance with Range until he tried to extort money from what I see in the emails. They did the right thing and told him no, so now he's having a very public and, I think, costly tantrum. Gee, Erin, a principled corporation? You should be applauding them for trying to buck the system in Harrisburg that produces people like Mike Veon, Bill DeWeese and now Jesse White. You sound like you got all the taking points from White and his antidrilling friends.

And White isn't fighting a "good fight". He's being a crybaby. I'll say it again--where is the proof? HE says the company is bad and awful yet never tells us why. He says the DEP is bad and awful for not disclosing water tests to HIM PERSONALLY, which they have never done. He makes up stories about smells at a clinic yet offers no proof of anything wrong and blames drilling right away. He gets called out on Patch and hides behind the "call my office" line. White is a joke and I hope Saylor finally nails him for being a liar.

Hi Erin welcome to Cecil Township's issues since the ones who know you and how you feel about the enviroment, politics,drugs etc. I would like to stay on the subject of Rep. White and his dislike for Range and the DEP. You don't want us to believe the words of other people who have provided proof but we should believe Rep. White who won't provide proof just his word. He says he was threaten won't supply proof, says emails taken out of context ,show use ,provide the proof and all of this could go away. The people in Rep. White's district know him and know how he talks a good game but doesn't want to back it up with anything. After a years of political lies we don't believe words we want proof.

Emails, newspaper story, whatever. you know what i mean but read through this and it quotes some of them. Nice try, though, "erin" (odd that you don't look anywhere close to your listed age of 38...unless you're not real). Something else odd is that Jesse White attacked the DEP while his good friend John Smith, an attorney representing people with alleged water issues, was suing Range: http://eidmarcellus.org/marcellus-shale/jesses-junkyard-plaintiff-attacks-dep/14993.
Gee, "Erin", looks like your talking points just fell apart.

Whops, left out the story that quotes the emails...
http://www.mcall.com/news/nationworld/pennsylvania/mc-pa-shale-driller-lawmaker-email-20121114,0,23675.story

Thank you Ben E. this has been very interesting reading. Erin i know how you feel about enviromental issues read The Oberserver-Reporter Saturday Nov. 24. 2012 front page (Conservation Groups http://www.observer-reporter.com/article/20121123/NEWS0801/121129666/0/SEARCH

Proud, this is a big issue in my hometown. Huge. People are losing their homes. I actually care very little about the environmental impact (comparatively speaking) and care more about the loss of property value. So when a politician addresses the issue, I am all over it. And please stop saying that you know how I feel on issues as you are almost always wrong, and I am so tired of explaining it to you.

Ben, please see previous posts concerning chromium and one of the many issues in my area. I have no talking points on this issue.

Ben, the first article is a slam piece by a biased source. The second hyperlinks "Jesse White" to a black senator. Not the same guy. They do not even know who they are talking about. Once again there is only paraphrasing and two brief quotes. Where are the actual emails?

I am not here to fight. The real issue of DEP water testing is one that I follow as drilling is destroying to property value of homes. I also enjoy Oren's blogs, and I often agree. That is all. I have things to do today.

Thanks Oren for an interesting blog as always! :)

Erin sorry if I upset you I go on what you have been posting in various issues on Patch and base my info on that.. After reading many articles on both sides this is what I am understanding . If someone complains their water is affected by the gas drilling the DEP goes out and checks the water for the chemicals connected with drilling and provides a report. If other chemicals show up they are sueing the wrong people just because other chemicals are their doesn't mean it is coming from the gas industry.In the one case the well is surrounded by a junk yard and with old cars etc. you have oil and gas leaking from these vehicles in time this can also leak into their system. You don't like our post that show the industry is not some evil monster but you want us to believe the sites you post that are bias toward the industry. How many gas sites have you visited, have you looked into how fracking is done and how they protect the water table? Do you know the history of oil and gas industry in the state of Pa. before we had strict regulations? Their are many uncapped wells from that era that has nothing to do with the present day drilling and the townships that are sueing Range and the DEP are letting housing plans being built around them and once they are capped even on top of them. To me that seems a little a little one sided lets go after the big present day industry and close our eyes to the industry from the pass who could be the problem.

One more question Erin why are people losing their homes because of the oil and gas industry?

Thanks, Erin, for your kind words. I am glad to have helped to stimulate an interesting and intelligent discussion. Whether I agree with you or not, I always enjoy reading your thoughts. You are a passionate, intelligent, educated individual. There should be more participants with those qualities.

You put up a link dated Arpil 2010 and that's suppoed to be some kind of support of White's argument about water testing? As for the link, is this better:

http://triblive.com/news/allegheny/2950709-74/range-emails-company-industry-drilling-pitzarella-cecil-changed-gas-lawmakers#axzz2DAsJlBlN

As for bias, you correctly note the one link goes to a proindustry site. Fair enough. But are the facts correct? I don't care about the tone. My pioint is that if the facts aren'tcorrect, White owes everyone an explanation or a correction or something that backs up his accusations he keeps making. He makes some wild allegation, then waits for the industry repsonse which is usally them saying "baloney", then he pretends they conjured up an attack on him. He doesn't appear to be all the bright. The problem with people of his low intelligence is that they can still have an effect on other people and in this case it's jobs. What politician in his right mind would go out of his way to attack a company because of a personal issue then claim he supports what they do?
Good luck on your schooling. Hope you can find a job when you're done.

Erin watched your video and if this is really happening it should be taken care of, but it has nothing to do with Range Resources it was a company called Rex Energy Inc. If this company did something wrong it should be made to pay, but you can't say all companies aren't drilling in a safe manner. Gas and oil drilling is not going away and it would be a much better use of energy to make it safe and not say everyone is bad so stop drilling. Rep White praised Range up and down a short while ago and their way of drilling is still the same.

Erin I know Rep White very well And what he says about being for drilling is words it is Range and The DEP he has issues with and until he is willing to give proof to what he is saying that is all they are words which he says over and over with no proof. I'm not all one sided if I had proof that Range was doing wrong I would be the first to hold their feet to the fire unlike Jesse White followers who think his words are written in stone.

I just checked this thread for the first time since this morning and it's just mind-numbing. Some of the conclusions and twisting of my opinions and positions could not be further from the truth, and when I offer to talk to people, I get ridiculed even more. We all know why- you wouldn't say to someone's face the things you can say anonymously on here.

I have no problem saying to your face what I say here ,privately never that is how things get all twisted around and I wouldn't have emails and letters etc. like you claim to have to provide the PROOF. You claim to have PROOF but you will not provide it and that is all we are asking of you.

I will also not be posting any more on this thread, because I want to devote my time and energy to my constituents who are willing to attach their names to their issues and actually want my help. I renew my offer to discuss any of these issues face-to-face with anyone wishing to discuss them- all you have to do is call my office at 724-746-3677.

Rep White don't use the name excuse not to provide the proof you claim to have. We all want your help to clear up the dispute between you and Range why can't you say here or in the papers or on Patch what you would say in private? Would hate to think it could change after the fact if it is not in writing

White gets called out and resorts to the same old cowardly tactic. Jesse you're the one who keeps floating your beef with Range out in public so don't run and hide when asked for proof of wrongdoing. Where's the proof? Yeah, didn't think so. What's mind numbing is there are still people who think you're credible.
And Erin, you're obviously not a neutral party in this. I call BS on "hundreds" of people losing their property because of drilling. You haven't offered one shred of evidence. If something bad happened two and a half years ago, I feel bad but I'm guessing the company had to fix it, right? As proud American also points out, what does that have to do with Range or even the DEP? Here's a quote I just pulled from the PA American Water page (you know, the company that provides drinking water...):
"Chromium is an odorless and tasteless metallic element. It is found naturally in rocks, plants, and soil and also found in humans and animals. There are two common forms of chromium: Chromium 3-is an essential human dietary element found in vegetables, meats, fruits, grains and yeast. Chromium 3 can be found in most multi-vitamins. Chromium 6 (also known as hexavalent chromium) can be generated from natural deposits of chromium in soils as well as produced by industrial processes such as steel manufacturing and pulp mills."

First it was people in your county allegedly losing heir property values, hundreds of them. Then it changed to people everywhere in the state. Then you rallied behind White's bogus DEP crusade and posted a video over two years old that doesn't even relate to his attack on a state agency. When asked for proof, you ignore it and write the same thing he does "see my previous post". Then you advise anyone who might disagree with you to keep it to themselves. Finally, you go after Stan Saylor--twice--and he just coincidentally is the guy who called for White to be investigated. For someone who isn't a White operative, you sure are picking sides blatantly. And you note in your "profile" that you have an interest in politics. Well, apparently not in U.S. Politics since we tend to value the open exchange of ideas, not "if you don't agree with me, be quiet". You have a lot to learn.
So back up your assertions with proof, the ones about property values all over the state. Ask your hero White to back up his claims with proof. See, if people like you would actually offer evidence instead of evasion you might even pull people like me to your side.

Wow...Okay...One last time...

1. The proof of lost property value due to drilling, and the similarity in contested DEP testing, is in the video and the article about people in my county. One woman's home was assessed to be worth $15,000. She didn't buy it for 15,000, so the property lost value. Read the article/watch the video for more info.

2. I never said hundreds in PA. I said hundreds and probably thousands in accumulation over the past ten years nationally...never did I say "state-wide."

3. It is not "White's crusade" that I rally behind. People have been contesting the DEP's testing process (especially in the instance of Chromium 6) for years! I showed you a 2010 article explaining this, and then I showed you a recent article having to do with the DEP's testing process and specifically the White situation in which Marcellus Shale just conveniently ignores that Chromium is listed as a metal that _should_ be tested for during baseline testing, but is _not_ tested for according to the code applied by DEP testers that White talks about in a November 7th Patch blog article.
The lack of reading comprehension is kind of blowing my mind right now.

I don't want you to be quiet. I want you to PLEASE SEE PREVIOUS COMMENT as the previous comments answer _all_ of your questions. For further evidence feel free to do your own research.

Mind blown...or something. ;)

The uncanny similarities between your writing and that of Jesse White is just incredible, as is the dishonesty you both display. Here, let me show you my "reading comprehension" so you can really have your mind blown, or something.

1. 1:00, 11-24 "...people in my area (not White's district but near) are losing their property values, clean water and health since drliing began..."..."After seeing people in my county lose everytyhing bc local drilling reduced their property value to nothing..." (note the words "my area", "property values" and "my county").

2. 1:33, 11-24: "People in my county lost their proprety values to local drilling...neither the government nor the drilling company are reimbursing these people for their lost property value". (Note the words "county" and "property value")

3:12 11-24: "...as people all over the state are losing their homes and wealth without reimbursement from the govt and/or gas companies?" (note the words "state" and "losing their homes")

4. 12:08, 11-25: "...drilling is destroying to property value of homes"

5. 4:26 11-25: "There are also hundreds upon hundreds (if not thousands but I will low ball it) that are losing what little property value that they had and that have physical evidence of their water being unsuable after drilling took place." (note the words "hundreds" and "thousands").

Wow, mind blown or something...or maybe just your credibility.

Very good job Ben E. pointing out the comments

Some people know everything about everything but the topic of Jesse White and Range is still the same Rep White talks and talks and people like Erin believe every word he said even if he can't prove it . Range provided the people of Cecil Township the truth.

I think we can consider this a bonus thread,

Quoting, "... all you have to do is call my office at 724-746-3677. Amazingly, no one has chosen to take me up on this offer. ...."

Quoting, " .. all you have to do is call my office at 724-746-3677. ...."

We have two invitations. Most threads only have one invite. We are plussed.

Sorry, no count on admonition of anonymous posters. I'm sure there some, like all other similar threads.